maxwells_daemon: (Dr Bunsen)
maxwells_daemon ([personal profile] maxwells_daemon) wrote2010-04-01 12:36 pm

LHC II

We only got our first physics data from the LHC on Tuesday, and they are already planning its successor!

[identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh - we were planning Herschel's successor well before it launched!

[identity profile] e-pepys.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, there is a real LHC upgrade programme. And the International Linear Collider as the next generation machine, but that would need a straight bit of track.

[identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's all very exciting. And you haven't managed to destroy the world yet!

[identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
(And I just read the article. Yeah. But the physics data is (are?) still exciting.)

[identity profile] e-pepys.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. On the first day we got twice as much data as all our December test run. We are furiously analysing...
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[identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Brilliant!

[identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can just imagine Kzin pining away at home while you work long hours in the lab.

"Myeh?"

[identity profile] e-pepys.livejournal.com 2010-04-02 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But you forget that he is the cleverest cat in the whole wide world. When I get home he is intent on discussing the finer points of the phenomenology of minimum bias events, while all I want to do is slump down in front of an episode of True Blood.

[identity profile] emily-shore.livejournal.com 2010-04-02 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's what "myeh?" means, obviously! :)

[identity profile] colinbj.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
emily_shore wrote: "And you haven't managed to destroy the world yet!"

That's just an observer effect. We're in one of those 1-in-10^100 (and becoming steadily sparser) probability worlds where, by incredible coincidence, not one collision has produced a black hole yet.

They should build the LHC successor on the M25. If that one does produce a world-destroyer, at least we'll have the long awaited fitting conclusion to Good Omens.

[identity profile] e-pepys.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's just an observer effect. We're in one of those 1-in-10^100 (and becoming steadily sparser) probability worlds

If those were the probabilities, then we'd almost certainly be alive in a world where the black hole was crunching its way though continental Europe right now. I think we'd have noticed: www.cern.ch (and my computer jobs at CERN) are still there.

[identity profile] zengineer.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
To manage a 7TEv collision a 100 tonne tube train only needs to be going 5x10^-6 m/s so it should also be easy to get your collision energy up.

[identity profile] e-pepys.livejournal.com 2010-04-01 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
We need to arrange for the train to push a bunch of protons. Oh but...

[identity profile] manylelephants.livejournal.com 2010-04-02 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you really want CERN shut down for another 18 months due to tube workers' strikes?